Krieg was not in training camp that season, but intended on playing a 20th NFL season. Where is Dave Krieg now? Sign up for the For The Win newsletter to get our top stories in your inbox every morning. Krieg has now been surpassed by both Brett Favre and Warren Moon for career fumbles. Krieg would suffer a shoulder injury late in what became an up-and-down season, and the Seahawks finished 8-8. But the career leader in quarterback fumbles is none other than Hall of Famer Brett Favre, with 166. Stouffer replaced Krieg after a three-interception meltdown, just as the Seahawks were about to face the Bill Parcells-Bill Belichick-Lawrence Taylor Giants. Have you bought the book with the best of Mike's first 12 years or so writing for Football Outsiders? Patera was the oldest of the old school: a 1950s linebacker who managed the Purple People Eaters as the Vikings' defensive line coach. Krieg signed with the Seahawks' division rivals, the Kansas City Chiefs, and started for them throughout 1992, leading his new team to a 106 record, including two victories over Seattle. With something weird NFL in rti but not sure if have desire anymroe. I remember when 44 year old Deberg started a game for the 1998 Falcons (one of their 2 losses that season). Krieg is one of the main reasons for the Seahawks finishing 12-4 in 1984 (season Curt Warner got injured in the 1st game and missed the rest of the season). "[36], Later that month, the Jacksonville Jaguars knocked McNair out of a game, but Krieg's comeback effort failed. Zorn played adequately to start the season, then slowly fell off a cliff. When I was a kid a I thought he was a damn wizard. In a 1991 game between the New Orleans Saints and Seattle Seahawks, QB Dave Krieg got injured and suffered a broken thumb. See Photos. NFL Combine 5 QBs with smaller hands who were just fine in the As it turns out, hands under nine inches arent One can only wonder what would have happened had the Cowboys kept Zorn and/or DeBerg instead of Glenn Carano (2nd round pick in 1977) once Roger Staubach retired and Danny White (drafted by the Cowboys in the 3rd round in 1974, went to the WFL at the start of his career, joined the Cowboys in 1976) beat out Carano for the starter's job in 1980. Maybe Dave Krieg with the small hand thing. Or Steve DeBerg. Krieg also played well in Miami the following week, but the Dolphins defeated the Seahawks and went on to lose Super Bowl XIX. Thanks for this article - Dave Krieg was one of my favorite players - and I thought I was the only one who thought he was pretty great! Reply . However, Krieg and Seahawks offense were overwhelmed by the aggressive defense of the L.A. Krieg placed third overall, behind Willie Gault and Herschel Walker. Definitely not the oldest person on here if you are using Krieg as a reference .. ROFL.. kids? The Seahawks finished a disappointing 79, leading to the resignation of Coach Knox. Krieg also became part owner of the af2's Green Bay Blizzard in 2007 along with former Green Bay Packer linebacker Brian Noble. As someone who is arguably the greatest to ever take snaps from under center, Brady didnt have especially large hands. Dave Krieg played in 12 postseason games (9 as a starter), and completed 51.1 percent of his passes (144 for 282) for 1,895 passing yards, 11 touchdowns, 10 interceptions and a 70.86 rating. General manager Mike McCormack took over as head coach and reinstated Zorn when play resumed in November. Broadcasters and columnists alike loved to tell the story of the seventh-stringer from tiny Milton College. They somehow (read:Cortez Kennedy) won two games, one of which was against the 1-15 Patriots, so the Pats got local heroDrew Bledsoe #1 in the draftand the Seahawks got Rick Mirer at #2. Yet hes an elite quarterback anyway? DeBerg moved on, and Krieg found himself handing off to Christian Okoye and Barry Word in a conservative offense for a team run by an old-school head coach that got hammered in the first round of the playoffs. I think the cut off point in terms of date of birth is probably sometime in 1970 or 1971. He suffered a hand injury in Week 10 against the Packers, and Krieg led a rally from a 24-0 deficit. Pickett, an otherwise accomplished college player, measured out with some of the smallest hands in Combine history at 8.5 inches. However, operating behind a porous offensive line, Krieg had another inconsistent year. Jets link has been fixed. Well find a hand-size correlation soon. In the team's eight victories, Krieg's passer rating averaged more than 114an excellent markbut in their eight losses, his rating hovered just above a dismal 40.[16]. [29] The team went 4-12, which resulted in head coach Buddy Ryan and Krieg losing their jobs. That season, Seattle had a Sunday Night and Monday Night game in back to back weeks, both of which Stouffer started. Completed only 1 of 12 passes Krieg started his career as a seventh-string quarterback at a level of competition one step up from intramurals. Head coach Jack Patera and offensive coordinator Jerry Rhome liked Krieg, and he latched on in training camp in 1980once again as a seventh-string quarterback, at least according to Krieg's recollections. [19], During the offseason, the Seahawks acquired Kelly Stouffer from the Phoenix Cardinals, and began to groom him as the franchise quarterback of the future.[20]. He signed with the Bears to back up Erik Kramer. In Week 16, Krieg was benched and Stouffer got his first start of that season. Cross Ryan Fitzpatrick with Tony Romo and you might just end up with Dave Krieg. I think I remember reading once that Montana got his first start over Deberg because Deberg, otherwise healthy, had laryngitis and could not call plays. At that point, head coach Chuck Knox named Krieg the Seahawks' new starting quarterback. ", We have come to the 1987 players strike. In reply to I liked DeBerg, he had by Noahrk. The nine-year Ken Behring era in Seattle after Krieg and Knox's departure was mostly terrible. Krieg and the Seahawks suffered another midseason swoon in 1989. Despite Krieg's solid play, the visiting Lions lost narrowly to the Green Bay Packers in the first round of the playoffs. The Lions went 5-2 down the stretch. Largent broke a bone in his elbow early in the 1989 season and announced his retirement late in the year. [34], However, in the 1998 season opener in Cincinnati, McNair exited the game with a bruised elbow. Dave Krieg Krieg's burden grew heavier in 1990, with the retirement of Largent and the continued decline of the offensive line and the running game. Given the litany of stars who have entered the league since Carr started his professional career in 2014, it can be easy to forget this Raiders mainstay. In reply to How dare you besmirch the by Ambientdonkey. Then he melted down in the Wildcard Game, leading to one of the all-time playoff beat-downs, and subsequently went back to being the Scott Mitchell we all know and love today. [43], He was inducted into the Seattle Seahawks Ring of Honor in 2004.[17]. Career Notes. Wheeeee!!!!!! it is difficult to explain to younger fans just how big the Mitchell deal was at the time. David Krieg. As an aside, I won a FF championship with him as my starter for half a season during his Chicago year. [8] In his first NFL start against the New York Jets on December 6, Krieg ran for one touchdown and threw for two others, including a 57-yard game-winning completion to Steve Largent. Though I remember both, I was born slightly after the cutoff so I remember Ken Patera better. To their credit, Knox and Meyer turned back to Krieg as soon as he was healthy. However, Krieg still saw substantial action in 1993, relieving Montana in six games, and starting five games for the oft-injured Hall of Famer. They were merely average for someone of his 6-foot-5 stature. "There isn't anything particularly outstanding I can tell you about Kelly Stouffer other than he has a good arm, he's tall, and he can move around pretty good," Knox said of the quarterback his team traded a first-round pick for. WebDave Krieg is near the bottom; I consider him to be the poster child for small-handed quarterbacks. There are so many good bad stats from this team, but my personal favorite is that they never topped 17 points on the season and had a six-game stretch in which they scored 22 points total! "Dave Krieg is making a big move at Jim Zorn. When I think of Dave Kreig, I always think of the 1985 Seahawks, the team that alternated four 2 game winning streaks with four 2 game losing streaks. Web@andeparks I was there too! Scroll down on this page to "A Good Walkthrough Spoiled. His college teams had a 14-30 record in games he started (not exactly in a power conference either), and he was brutal his senior year, completing fewer than 55% of his passes with twice as many INTs as TDs (7-14). Of course his performance in December was the real Mitchell, but that didnt stop the Lions. When that remedy failed to avert a four-game losing streak, Knox gave Krieg another chance. Sports Reference Should Dave Krieg Be In The Hall of Fame? YES After breaking his thumb in the season opener, Krieg missed six games in 1991. The WORST Mistake of Dave Krieg's Career | Seahawks - YouTube And as is the norm with all the draft pundits and analysts and supposed professional scouts, this is somehow a significant point of contention when projecting Picketts career. "I wish I had an arm like John Elway but I don't," Krieg said in the same article. The Seahawks would not reach the playoffs again after Krieg's departure until Paul Allen bought the team and Mike Holmgren took over as head coach in 1999. Romo, like Krieg, ran torrid-and-tepid, endured playoff pratfalls, led the league in interceptions once but produced lots of memorable highlights, threw to some all-time greats but played for some coaches with complicated legacies, and spent an awful lot of his career mired around .500 despite some impressive stats. Stouffer stepped in and led the Seahawks to a pair of wins, mostly by handing off to Warner and John L. Williams. But otherwise, I dont see much. Even when the young starter played poorly,[33] coach Jeff Fisher declined to insert Krieg. On the other hand, ultra-conservative coaches love gutsy field general-types like Krieg. Kreig Kreig Hrm, you reckon this young whipper-snapper means old Mudbone outta Milton College? See Photos. He's pretty unflappable. I had forgotten the Rams play, that's got to be one of the greatest plays in history. We know you are here for the FREE analytics, not the ads. That's not the sort of thing a team does when it is completely satisfied with its starting quarterback. Yep. Seahawks Flashback: Mudbone shakes off Veteran Jeff Kemp, who looked great when throwing to Largent against insurance salesmen in 1987, flopped in a one-game trial as the backup. Although the Seahawks managed only a 79 record, Krieg played well enough to earn a return trip to the Pro Bowl, where he performed impressively, helping lead the AFC to victory.[23]. Mitchell finished 25th in DVOA and 26th in DYAR. 32 Facts About Dave Krieg | FactSnippet. Krieg would feel his absence, throwing more interceptions (20) than touchdowns (15) in 1990. And instead, theres supposed to be a lot of weight placed on whether they can comfortably palm a football with one hand. Legendary fumbling quarterback Dave Krieg third on the all-time list with 153 was rumored to have teeny hands. Even though he wasn't playing by the time the By this point, "small hands" had been added to "played for a college that no longer exists" in Krieg's short-form resume, and he's still third (behind Brett Favre and Warren Moon) on the all-time fumble list. The newly-christened "Air Knox" flew better than your average wild turkey. This year that backwards discussion is centered around former Pittsburgh signal-caller, Kenny Pickett. Explore sample content below to see what you're missing. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Looking back across an almost endless career that spanned two strikes, two decades, and parts of several distinct NFL eras, I'm left struggling with the question of just how good Krieg really was. He went 1-of-8 for 2 yards, three sacks, and one interception in the first half of a Week 8 against the Steelers, who were without Jack Lambert on defense and Terry Bradshaw on offense. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, college, draft, and more on Pro-football-reference.com. "He's a streak passer, and when he's on a hot streak, it's hard to get him out of that rhythm.". The Chiefs signed Joe Montana to really feed their habit in 1993. We went out for pre-game warm-ups, then came back in and Jerry Rhome said, 'Hey, you know you're starting, don't you? This year that backwards discussion is centered around former Pittsburgh signal-caller, Kenny Pickett. Again, his passer rating told the tale: 3 horrible games (below 50), 4 mediocre ones (50s and 60s), 5 good efforts (70s and 80s), and 4 outstanding performances (90s or better).