That stuff dries PDQ. Posted by espins1 on Saturday, October 25, 2008 2:05 PM . I can't answer about nitrocellulose thinner, but I can report that the recommended thinner is Gunze'sMr. Color Thinner. Your previous content has been restored. I guess the problem is more "me" than the "Kicker". Under $8.00. Mr Surfacer 1500 Spray, Black Similar to the very popular Mr Surfacer 1500 brush on, the 1500 spr.. 10.99 Add to . Forgive my cluelessness about this. March 3, 2016 in Paint. If you don't want too much smell try stynylrez, of just use a tamiya grey paint. My preferred is Black Mr Finishing Surfacer 1500 that I use as a primer undercoat. It's a pain, but it works for me. It's still best not to sniff it though. The problem I have is, application. "You can't have everything--where would you put it?". Jim, what accelerator are you using? It is relatively hot but I have not had a single issue with plastic melting when spraying or brushing the stuff. I use the levelling thinner with Mr. Hobby paints and while it smells a little it is manageable indoors, the cellulose thinner is much stronger and while I don't mind dipping a brush in it and getting the bottle top on again ASAP the idea of atomising it in a spray.. well, it's not for me thanks. I have tried to google and search Youtube for tips, but most are about airbrushing techniques. Leveling thinner is a laquer thinner, it will all stink to high heaven I am afraid, though maybe not as much as raw cellulose thinner. Your link has been automatically embedded. Let dry, then give it a coat of 1000 and a light wet sanding. | 8 answered questions. If it was a liquid that had a tint, that would be even better. 0000011484 00000 n Hey everyone, in this video I'm going to show you how I thin my paints and primer particularly the Mr. Surfacer 1500. SF286 Mr. Surfacer 1200 Bottle 40ml, GSI - amazon.com Too many kits so little free time. Mr.Hobby Finishing Surfacer 1500 Gray/ PRIMER BASE COAT Can't hurt to try itthe. March 6, 2017 in Hints and Tips. I leave all putty, including Mr. Surfacer, on for about 45 min - 1 hr. Regards, PDF Using Mr. Surfacer as a Primer and Filler - Fort Crook IPMS For now I have decided to use brush painting instead of airbrush, because my home environment is not suitable for spraying. Any tips on thinning ratio for this product? CATPALM Resin Mixer,Handheld Battery Epoxy Mixer with Rechargeable Battery for Minimizing Bubbles,DIY Crafts Tumbler, 4 Included Paddles, Airbrush Cleaning Kit - Airbrush Clean Pot Glass Cleaning Jar with Holder, 5pc Cleaning Needles, 5pc Cleaning Brushes, 1 Wash Needle, 2 Extra Filters, Master Airbrush Brand 100 Pipette Eyedroppers for Liquid Transfer and Airbrush Paint, 4 Set Airbrush Spray Gun Wash Cleaning Tools Needle Nozzle Brush Glass Cleaning Pot Holder. In many cases, that is all that is needed. Im glad this came up, I just ordered a jar of 1500 black to use as primer. Gsi Creos Mr. Finishing Surfacer 1500 Pink 40Ml Hobby Finishing Sf292 VALLEJO 73821 RUST TEXTURE - DIOARAMA MODEL KITT - Tokopedia The subreddit dedicated to the hobby of plastic model kit building and painting. The drying time depends on factors such as humidity and temperature, usually a ball park figure of about 20-30 minutes in between coats is ideal. Shawn Quote ///Mflossin The answeris simply Testors Liquid Cement mixed with Squadron Green Putty in a mix of some one part liquid cement to five parts Green Stuff this is a thick coarse mixture that can be applied and then pulled, scratched, stampedor tacked to give various looks or cast surface features and thess variedmixtures readily adhereor bindto the plastic's surface. I've tried using dyes made to tint resin, they work, but the chemicals (VOC's) used are as hard on unprotected plastic as plain accelerator. If I don't wait long enough to sand though, it gets kinda gummy. Fast Drying (6) Items (6) Not Specified (9) Items (9) Condition. Mr Color (lacquer, not water based) Tips or Tricks? Tact is for those who lack the wit for sarcasm.--maddafinga, I've had the 1000 on my bench for a year now, and it really is fantastic stuff. - Subscribe and get notified when we release new videos: https://bit.ly/3qhUES7 - Find me on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AGunpla - Follow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_agunpla_ - Follow me on https://twitter.com/Agunpla1Thanks for watching and keep building!=====================================================Things I used: Amazon US:Mr. Surfacer 1500 Black: https://amzn.to/3YapuNmMr. Sign up for a new account in our community. The instructions give no indication about 'drying' time, or how long it takes to become safe to handle or polish, so I attempted to polish the surface more-or-less immediately after taking the photo: It certainly polishes nicely, and doing so brings out quite an authentic metallic sheen. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. How long should you let Mr. Surfacer (grade 500) dry before sanding? It sounds like one big preshade. December 8, 2006 in Tools 'n' Tips. I've sanded it much sooner but sometimes it starts to roll up or fills the sanding stick very quickly, indicating it's still not dry enough. Have seen videos where this has been used and it looks great, but cannot find anything that says how you thin it, what size airbrush needle to use or pressure to spray at. I tried using a mask for a while but it just kept interfering with my glasses so I gave up on that. When I apply too much it runs beyond the CA and can soften the surface detail,or mar paint (like in a wheel well), or un bonds small. 90% isopropl alcohol will also work great removing Mr Surfacer and it (the alcohol) will not have any adverse effects on the plastic. Recommended Posts. Britmodeller.com Followers 0. Usually more than 50/50. I've only been using this stuff for filling a short time, but I suspect you are not mixing the 500 enough. At first it might seem you have put too much on but it cures and 'reduces' a lot. 11 0 obj<> endobj xref 11 18 0000000016 00000 n 4.7 out of 5 stars 936. How big of a seam are you filling? used oil of banana to remove enamel of nails, http://www.modelsforsale.com/listphotos/TM87053.jpg, http://www.alergoshop.com.br/img/pro/130/leo%20de%20banana.jpg. Apply it in very thin coats. I use a 0.4 mm needle (H&S) and at around 15psi (at the compressor) but these things can vary a lot from setup to setup. you could stop at the Mr. Surfacer 1200 and then paint your base coat color or could prime again with Mr. Surfacer 1500. We have a great online selection at the lowest prices with Fast & Free shipping on many items! I tend to thin much like the old saying. Air pressure at about 18psi, range at 4 to 6 inches. I have this in the spray can and highly recommend it! Ya, I've noticed I can work fairly soon on the Mr. Surfacer when using the Q-tip/Alcohol trick. thanks to all for the replies, looks like I'll have to experiment with a 50/50 mix of the surfacer and the Mr Levelling thinner and see what the results are. My wife, my cat, models, ju jitsu, triathlonsnot necessarily in that order. having not used 500 yet i can only assume the surfacer 500 is probably finer or thinner. Includes 6 Foot Exhaust Extension Hose, Mr. Hobby B506 Mr. Surfacer 500 Spray, GSI. I plan on we sanding for a perfect. To participate you must either login or register for an account. There is no time limit that you have to observe when sanding Mr. Surfacer other than to let it dry first. %PDF-1.4 % Drying Time: Mr. Surfacer 500 out of bottle - Tools 'n' Tips - ARC C.A.G. Overnight is plenty. To participate you must either login or register for an account. The mix can also be made with Squadron White Putty (which is finer in texture) but the consistancy is a bit different and gives a less coarse texture finish than does the green putty version. i think we're a little short on the bananna oil here in the states 500 coarser in grit than is 1000 or than is 1200 smaller the number the coarser the finish as in sandpaper nomenclature. It is great for small surface problems. Can I premix my Surfacer 1500 and the thinner, for the purpose of consistency and convenience? I don't do anything with the surfacer. Judge by consistency not ratios. I know about the health implications and now always spray with an open window and an extractor booth. I've gotten to where I use a Q-tip and isopropyl alchohol to "sand" it after 10-15 minutes. Need more help contact me through http://www.afrikakorps.org/and then click link to Nacht hope this adds to readers work benches for another method or tool to use when needed Our community is FREE to join. CA to fill the gap,sink marks, depressions etc. You are not obligated to do so, but it does help fund these videos in hopes of bringing value to you! I've used the Mr. Surfacer 1000 White from the rattle cans and liked it but didn't like the control of the can. Does anyone have any tips? One of the reasons it's great as a . Actually now that I think about it, isn't Mr. Color Thinner (as mentioned by ThatJeffGuy above) basically lacquer thinner? Mr Surfacer 500 Spray. Mister surfacer grades, which is which? - Large Scale Planes Darren. $8.00 to $15.00. Hey guysunder normal conditions (ie 60F), can I expect Mr. Surfacer 500 to dry in around an hours or so time or is the period of time shorter? I find filling gaps with Mr Surfacer problematic, as it tends to shrink away from sharp edges as it dries. Paste as plain text instead, If it needs more sanding after that, I give it an hour to avoid that "roll-up" hks mentioned. GSNeil. I have a pot of Mr. Finishing Surfacer 1500 Black and as per usual all the instructions on the side are in Japanese. You can post now and register later. It also seems to be cured as I used super glue atop is with no ill affects. By Apply in multiple layers to get the perfect finish. Color. I tried nail-polish remover once and it didn't work..must have been non-acetone based. I'd just add some Mr Levelling thinner til it's the consistency of semi-skimmed milk. Hey everyone, in this video I'm going to show you how I thin my paints and primer particularly the Mr. Surfacer 1500. Mr.Hobby's " Mr.Finishing Surfacer 1500 Gray ", is a new primer to me. It seems if applied too heavy, it takes overnight to dry, and shrinks up requiring another application. By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. Really like the Mr. Surfacer 500.does it exactly what I needed it to. CO-Z Lighted Airbrush Paint Spray Booth with Exhaust Fan, Paint Booth for Airbrushing with LED Lights, Turntable and Filter Hose, Airbrush Spray Booth Kit for Painting Model Craft Hobby DIY, Master Airbrush Brand Lighted Portable Hobby Airbrush Spray Booth with LED Lighting for Painting All Art, Cake, Craft, Hobby, Nails, T-Shirts & More. The same thing if you put it on too thin, it shrinks up and requires another application. Looks like this stuff might be pretty useful. I avoid using accelerator because it usually does more harm than good, smells like it's loaded with VOC's and that's probably why it leaves its mark on any unprotected plastic. 99 ($2.00/Fl Oz) . definitely just as funky smelling yet different than L/T .doesn't hurt the plastic either; maybe it's just. Mr Finishing Surfacer 1500 Grey, fine grey micro filler primer. I still give it a light micro mesh though before paint to make it super smooth, depends on the finish you want I guess. Modelling Q&A: Tips, Techniques, and Photography. I use the grey version with levelling thinner. 0000011114 00000 n It's the other way around actually. Mr Surfacer primer - how long to wait before applying next coat of Thank you for the great tip! Looking at a new jar of 1500 black it seems quite thin already. I paint it on with either a toothpick or a small brush I have specifically for it if you want to sand only a thin application of 500 then getting up and making a fresh pot of coffee. then collecting the mail. visiting the jon. then getting the coffee the milk.. the sugar (if you like it sweet) then meadering back to the bench.. having a look at it.. and then start the sanding. if it has shrunk into the scratch or hole that required filling then sometime a second or third application is required before sanding. but mostly everything that I need to repair is sanded the same day within an hour or so of application. just recently I have found the Laquer thinner I have always been looking for, so I will try to spray it (diluted of course with the above) as a base coat, then polish it out before the camo. give it a go once I started using it I couldn't stop it is great stuff and easy to apply. you can also shape it too. by using a Q-tip wetted in Isopropanol Alchohol and "buffing" a seam that has just been filled. it saves you the sanding after it dries P.s the 1000 is just a thinner version.. probably better for spray applications than the 500. the 500 has the thicker viscosity! Worked out pretty well for some 1/35 figures though. Powered by Invision Community, mostly post WW2 British types and also Russian stuff, especially the SU-27 for some entirely obscure reason :). It's been about 90 mins. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. GSI Creos. Thanks. $15.99 $ 15. Oh no, I was saying that I assumed 500 is finer than the dissolved putty. Thicker applications are probably better achieved with Mr Surfacer 500 or Mr Dissolved Putty anyway. Although, I recently sprayed MRP paint, and where I used Stynilrez, it came out beautiful., however, where I sprayed MRP over bare plastic, I was able to see sanding scratches. Privacy Policy. Quote Bell209 Glue Required Members 44 posts We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. 0000002070 00000 n I really prefer the old Testors low form square liquid cement bottles (that have the brush in the jar as they do not tip over like the new tall cylindrical ones now do) and I have saved my oldjars for just this purpose built mixture. As alwaysthanks for the input! Brush painting Mr Surfacer 1500 : r/modelmakers - Reddit Needs to be thinned significantly. Sign up for a new account in our community. How hot is this stuff? LSP_Members; 264 Gender: Male; Location: . Display as a link instead, Mr Surfacer 1000 makes a great primer. Pasted as rich text. The pieces have been primed with Mr Surfacer Primer and are dry to the touch. Or have tremendous patience building up the paint layers. Supplied in a 40ml jar, Mr. Surfacer 1500 can be used straight from the jar using a spotter paintbrush, cotton swab/bud (que tip) or toothpick for filling in bumps, scratches and pits. ROTFLMAO. I have used only enamel and acrylic but have heard that when using the laqcuer based paints you need to spray at a distance so that when it hits the plastic it is almost dry when it hits so that there is no attacking the plastic. I'm especially glad to see that you can airbrush the 1200. Paste as plain text instead, I just did some sanding. By Actually only used the black. Please check out their website at https://www.msmnstudio.com/.They're one the largest online GUNPLA and Kotobukiya hobby store. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I awlays for get to do it when I run into a time when I need it. I put some on about a half hour ago and it looks cured. Dainis I really like the way it applies and looks. If you look closely you will see that I have an extra-fine version in pale blue and used it to correct a problem on the PE siren using it just like Mr. Surfacer 1200 to fill minor imperfections. 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GSNeil. How to use Mr. Surfacer 500, 1000 and 1200 - a tutorial. This is my first time using this product. I bought a big bottle of Zip Kicker years ago, still using it, and it has never had a negative effect on plastic. HW0e H``Av@R:/*riY?~>~&04Ol?4w&4CSaZERG!~:2|emRE25q'EqqfW|()28sp::|3,)+Xc")jSu[$)sOT?I'iYbI,Y&iT)Bbt[?%0?:eAYB+QqcI~n5c! By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Your recently viewed items and featured recommendations. AK Interactive Xtreme Metal Metallic Paints | Large Scale Planes You can buy it anywhere, it's easy to apply, doesn't shrink up, and durable enough to scribe. I have both the Mr Colour ordinary and levelling thinner and I think they can be used to thin this I'd assume 50/50, but would like that to be confirmed? 1/48th Aircraft, especially Cold War era. I leave it about an hour or even less. I let the surfacer dry for 10 minutes and it was rock hard..could sand with no issue at all. Mr. Surfacer 1500 is a more finer finish which will give a really smooth . Airbrushing has never caused problems. Also, you might want to try applying it, waiting 20 minutes, then wiping off with a lint free paper towel dampened with ethyl or denatured alcohol. Very odd, root and twig, very odd indeed. Mr Surfacer 1500 - Hints and Tips - Large Scale Modeller Pasted as rich text. Powered by Invision Community, LETS GET WET! GROUP BUILD IS NOW ON. I don't sand it much myself but when I do, about an hour. Gundam/ mech model workshop 93: Mr. Surfacer 1500 Black review I normally use a cotton swab soaked in Mr Color thinner 110 and rub the surfacer until I get the "fill" I want and it feathers nicely. $1130 ($22.60 / Fl Oz) Brand. Also what different grade does it come in? Youre seeing this ad based on the products relevance to your search query. Your link has been automatically embedded. Sometimes I use a combiniation of the two. But even with using 500 for shallow scratches they still reappear after a couple of days and I have to fill them up again. I just picked some up for the first time, I've heard alcohol will work too, is this correct? Mr Surfacer 1500 thinning ratio By Dainis March 6, 2017 in Hints and Tips Dainis Members 11 Posted March 6, 2017 I have used mr surfacer 1000 and 1200 thinned 50/50 with levelling thinner. Thin with Mr Color Thinner or Mr color Levelling Thinner and apply with an airbrush for best results. I earn a small commission if you click on the link and subscribe to them or purchase the item. If somebody could recommend a simple liquid accelerator that wasn't as harmful as the typical accelerator that would be awesome. Great "how to" article Seor Swanny, but I've got a question for you. The only time i have used a black base is for the alclad metallics. That doesn't sound right for the 500. Price. 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